tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post3624553846911716633..comments2023-11-02T05:34:30.813-07:00Comments on Smith 9 Honors 09-10: LOF 1-3 Intial Impressionsanneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00573450327737964454noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-31261767485393308202009-09-17T18:09:01.586-07:002009-09-17T18:09:01.586-07:00From my initial reading of Lord of the Flies I hav...From my initial reading of Lord of the Flies I have seen a few key roles, the leaders Jack and Ralph, the brains or one with ideas, Piggy, and the followers, all the other kids. At this point in the book I can not decide if I like it or hate it, but I think it will keep getting better as the plot thickens.bryanh2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/15497061901023968067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-88040622579309847482009-09-04T19:35:55.366-07:002009-09-04T19:35:55.366-07:00I am really confused what Simon was doing in the j...I am really confused what Simon was doing in the jungle when he was in that closed off space. Can someone please explain this?eat broncoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08580355865621552048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-20352805912569123082009-09-01T21:21:07.772-07:002009-09-01T21:21:07.772-07:00So far, this book isn't necessarily my genre. ...So far, this book isn't necessarily my genre. Parts of it are rather boring, but this author gives vivid and detailed descriptions. As for the characters, I agree with some of the people who have written so far. I don't care for Jack at all. I feel he is too power hungry for he and Ralph to truly get along. I also feel that he is mentally unstable and has an obsession with killing, as shown with "the look in his eye" and his thoughts to himself while talking to Ralph. Ralph is trying to be as good of a leader as he can be in this situation, but he is lacking in manners and occasionally wits. Both of these boys are probably going to suffer later in this book because of how they treated Piggy. He is probably one of the smartest characters, if not THE smartest, but he gets absolutely no credit because he looks very different from the other boys. I'm pretty sure that Piggy will rise above everyone else and maybe even lash out violently. And Emily, to answer your question, I would guess that either the plane landed and skidded down the island during low tide, and the boys got out, but shortly after, the plane was washed away. My biggest questions so far are: What is Piggy's real name? And what happened to that little boy who was worried about the beasties? I also wonder whether or not the beasties are actually real, or just in some of the younger characters' minds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-55055595942412219282009-09-01T19:35:49.423-07:002009-09-01T19:35:49.423-07:00I actually am really liking the book so far. It...I actually am really liking the book so far. It's like a combination of the TV show Lost and Peter Pan. I agree with a lot of people that Jack is a jerk. He seems really cocky and thinks that he knows everything. I really like Piggie though. I feel bad for him the way he's treated. I think he'll end up saving the day somehow though. We'll see, I can't wait for the next chapters.grantl2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/04438879701621949965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-1549616915798995072009-09-01T17:18:14.882-07:002009-09-01T17:18:14.882-07:00This is probably one of the most confusing and wie...This is probably one of the most confusing and wierd books I have ever read. This is almost as confusing as the book a Wrinkle in Time. That book i did not enjoy reading either, but despite these set backs I think LOF might actually get better.bryanh2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/15497061901023968067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-6995736363712173382009-09-01T15:23:08.607-07:002009-09-01T15:23:08.607-07:00Okay, does anyone else find it weird that Jack is ...Okay, does anyone else find it weird that Jack is like obsessed with hunting a pig... And there happens to be a character named PIGGY?????? And Jack always is bashing on Piggy and telling him to shutup and stuff... Does that mean he wants to kill Piggy and a pig?? Or is it just a weird coincidence? William Golding makes some strange connections and is confusing if you ask me!!!janiep2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/10661271818596722190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-18054785267515617602009-09-01T07:41:07.379-07:002009-09-01T07:41:07.379-07:00I think Lord of the Flies is a very engaging story...I think Lord of the Flies is a very engaging story. Although, some of the others think that it's boring I think its quite interesting to see how people would fend for themselves; who's strong enough to survive or woh will die out. It has great vocabulary and a very descriptive way of writing. The author seems very talented, but I wonder how he came up with these great ideas? These childern left alone on an island to fend for themselves hardly seems fair, but life isn't fair. They have to battle their way out of an almost set fate. Their constant war during between the two leaders seems that it will cause problems in the future. Jack seems to be thinking long-term, as in staying and living here for the rest of their lives. While Ralph (my personal favorite since he has both brains--Piggy-- and he seems to care about the childern a lot more than power like Jack) is more concentrated on short term and getting help. The feuds against each other sounds like it will soon lead to a split in the group. small potenial problems could overall lead the group of survivors to destruction. The booking is interesting and keeps you thinking ahead.neelyd2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/04303394365140625281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-18201399730895627282009-09-01T07:36:08.424-07:002009-09-01T07:36:08.424-07:00I think from the beginning, Lord of the Flies is d...I think from the beginning, Lord of the Flies is definitely an interesting book. The theme is very similar to Lost in many aspects. The first three chapters set the stage for what evolves into a pretty entertaining and enlightening novel. The characters, Ralph, Jack, and Piggy are all well developed by the author, the reader can quickly relate or understand their situations. I think as I read further, the book will continue to get better and I am actually excited to read on.zacc2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/10692942124267925329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-34268550432405050622009-08-31T19:26:50.939-07:002009-08-31T19:26:50.939-07:00For me it is very hard to judge Lord Of the Flies ...For me it is very hard to judge Lord Of the Flies because I have already read it and have made my mind that I do not it. It generally shows the worst of these boys and I think that people young or old are generally better than portrayed in this book. It is kind of a slap on the face to all people when they write about Ralph being picked as the leader with no other reason than his looks. Over all I think that at this point in the book we have little information to base judgments on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-76547745165428618732009-08-31T14:38:26.467-07:002009-08-31T14:38:26.467-07:00Nathan, I think the man with the megaphone is the ...Nathan, I think the man with the megaphone is the pilot because Piggy said that before they found the conch.baileyw2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/08198008415351661945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-53693415752055672009-08-31T08:14:41.771-07:002009-08-31T08:14:41.771-07:00i was a little confused when they talked about the...i was a little confused when they talked about the "man wiht the megaphone". is that the pilot or Ralph. i also thought it interesting how there was no sort of "bliss" period where they thought that it was great to have no rules and adults. They also set up a hirearchy very quickly. They are also not very nice kids. they taunt Piggy and knock over the little kids sand castles. Jack is kind of stuck up. he just walked into the meeting and expected to be the "king"NathanF2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/17364700666927035708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-16210622036676551352009-08-31T07:34:29.966-07:002009-08-31T07:34:29.966-07:00I agree with bwinter because to enjoy this book to...I agree with bwinter because to enjoy this book to the fullest, you must not complain about it but just endure it and see what happens next. Unlike most people, I find this book sort of enjoying but I hate how Jack is so mean to Piggy. In my opinion, Piggy is the smartest one of the kids because he is keeping his head while all of the other children are loosing theirs. I also agree with bwinter because before I judge the book, I’ll wait to the end to truly see if I enjoyed it.AndyBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14401136440040243935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-86825265915764369592009-08-31T06:12:01.132-07:002009-08-31T06:12:01.132-07:00I have to say that I do not like Lord Of The Flies...I have to say that I do not like Lord Of The Flies. To me there really is no point to the story. I will be totally honest that I had trouble finishing the reading because most of it went right over my head.<br />I have to dissagree with GraceC2013 and KatieW2013 I do like Ralph and Piggy both. However Ralph can get on my nerves some times, as can Piggy. There is also this one part in the book where the author says they're on a terrace. Isn't a terrace a porch?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09863638402511183757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-57362877535467877482009-08-31T06:11:04.149-07:002009-08-31T06:11:04.149-07:00As far as the first 3 chapters go, I am not loving...As far as the first 3 chapters go, I am not loving LOF. First off, the word fluency and word choice is very unique and different that in places i have to reread sections to understand what they mean. Maybe as the book continues i will get used to this and begin to like it more. Also, this book does not answer most any questions about the crash, so it leaves me very confused. Also in the first chapter it mentioned an atom bomb???! Maybe i skipped a page explaining this but im very very confused. Another thing that confused me is the utter lack of concern among the boys. The characters have crashed on an island with no adults, and no one knows they're there.Isn't this a reaon to be freaking out??<br /><br />Characterwise, i symtpathize for Piggy, but agree with KatieW that he seems too needy. i do think it was wrong of Ralph to tell the group his name was Piggy when it was the one thing he asked him not to do. This leads me to agree with JanieP, that Piggy will become fed up and lash out to make people stop making fun of him. As for Jack i think he has had a rough past or family life, so he feels like he must gain control to be pushed around like in a past life. I think he must get over this because in the future he will do something desperate for power. Ralph i don't see as great or horrible, maybe becuase i don't typically connect with the leader. I agree with BritniJ that he could be nicer in his tactics, but he does a good job of keeping the boys civilized.<br /><br />I agree that the conch symbolizes something, but i am not sure. MelissaM mentioned it being cooperation, which i can see it being, but then again it seems like its more deep than that.<br />I hope this book gets better later on, because, as of now i am not too impressed.aliisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04115082426955014152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-26136858416536418872009-08-31T05:19:45.491-07:002009-08-31T05:19:45.491-07:00In response to Meredith's question on the peop...In response to Meredith's question on the people electing Ralph leader after knowing him only a short time; I believe that it is becasue as Tatiana said he is a natural leader. He also had the conch shell in his hands and to the boys it is sort of the symbol of power. But by Meredith bringing up that point has caused me to question what would happen if the conch was destroyed? The boys need the conch to keep order on the island, so would it just be chaos?Katie Wybengahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730844339297694349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-67294961710210120502009-08-31T04:50:35.241-07:002009-08-31T04:50:35.241-07:00I don't really like this book. It was very cha...I don't really like this book. It was very challenging for me to finish the assigned reading- I just couldn't focus.<br /><br />GraceC2013, I agree that Ralph is my least favorite character. He seems very stuck up and rude. However, I don't feel that he's pretending just for the sake of the "cooler kids". Rmember in the first chapter, when Piggy was trying to talk to him and become friends, Ralph tried to ditch him because of thier physical differences? That was before he had even met Jack and the chior kids. So, it has gotten worse since he met Jack and his possey, but Ralph's feelings have always been there in some form.laurenh2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/07145218679004238644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-89478726850976242462009-08-30T21:53:43.978-07:002009-08-30T21:53:43.978-07:00Like Tatiana, I found the first three chapters of ...Like Tatiana, I found the first three chapters of LOF confusing. I think it may partly be that they're British, so many words are words that I don't know or wouldn't use in the sense that they do. I also agree with Janie in that Jack is rude. However, he's not my least favorite character- that's Ralph. I think that Ralph needs to stop just trying to be friends with Jack and the choir boys. It's almost like they're in middle school (or high school); he's trying to fit in with the so-called "cooler kids", so he has to be mean to someone because they are. I also really like how much the author describes the scenery, because I can imagine the way everything looks pretty well. I'm still wondering why it's called Lord of the Flies, but I'm sure I'll find out soon enough! I think that this book is very well written and it's not boring or anything, but I'm not really enjoying it yet. It doesn't really seem like the type of book I would pick out to read, but hopepfully it'll grow on me!GraceC2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483421129994069430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-46288387032882723782009-08-30T21:17:22.378-07:002009-08-30T21:17:22.378-07:00The first three chapters of LOF were very confusin...The first three chapters of LOF were very confusing and not so interesting. At first I was confused and I still am sometimes. This book looks like a really good book and I think I am going to enjoy reading this book. There are a lot of big words and some words that I have no clue what they mean. From the very beginning you could tell that Ralph took the leader role and was a natural at it. This book is very descriptive has good vocabulary. Piggy needs to stand up for himself because he gets pushed around a lot by Jack and Ralph. Jack and Ralph became best friends instantly and they aren’t very nice when they are together. I have heard lots of things about this book so lets see how it turns out!tatianaa2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/13095239222257881075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-23853009623084984222009-08-30T20:34:17.327-07:002009-08-30T20:34:17.327-07:00The first 3 chapters of LOF were not super interes...The first 3 chapters of LOF were not super interesting. I was confused with some big words. I had no idea what creepers were. I didn't like Golding's intro, he just like dropped the kids on a random island without adults. I agree with everyone - Piggy is the kid pushed around by Jack and Ralph. He needs to step up for himself. These kids were not prepared to survive in the world because they were so dependent on their parents. I like Dannyv's idea on how they got to the island. This isn't one of my favorite books, but it might be better if he clarifies more. I heard this is a sad book, so I think someone is going to die.samb2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/12818273113385814295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-72820743552897635892009-08-30T20:33:38.956-07:002009-08-30T20:33:38.956-07:00So far, the book Lord of the Flies is realllllly c...So far, the book Lord of the Flies is realllllly confusing. Just reading the first 3 chapters I have a ton of questions in my mind. First off, where are they? They’re on an island yeah but what island and where and stuff. Another question I have is why are they all guys? It seems kind of weird to me that everyone is a guy on the island, and if there was an atom bomb and everyone is dead but them, is humanity doomed? The biggest question I have at this point is what happened. Obviously there was a plane crash, but what happened before the plane crash that a bunch of boys were put on a plane that happened to crash on some island in the middle of nowhere. Crazzzzyy stuff haha.<br /><br />So far my favorite character in this book is piggy, but only because I feel bad for him. Ralph really embarrassed him during the group meeting by telling everyone his nickname was piggy, and it’s pretty sad that it just so happens that the fat kids name is piggy. My least favorite character at this point is jack. I think that he tries to show his authority too much and just comes off as being mean to everyone else. Also, are they a choir or what? It confuses me that the choir all has black badges and black capes with grey shorts and stuff. They sound like more of an army than they do a choir<br /><br /><br />So yeah, I’m hoping the book gets better and my questions get answered. This book is realllllly confusing so far.justinryan2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/01043499724224628209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-27395278630361486642009-08-30T20:26:09.724-07:002009-08-30T20:26:09.724-07:00Honestly, after reading the first few chapters I&#...Honestly, after reading the first few chapters I'm not loving Lord of the Flies. I just keep waiting for something big to happen because so far it's been really slow. I've been really confused with some of the terms that the author has used such as, beastie and creepers. And I think it's a good question for Rebekkah so bring up, are there adult survivers that we just don't know about yet? I dont think so but who knows.Hopefully as the book goes on it gets more interesting and the boys talk about more than just being rescued and hunting pigs!taylort2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/00593016803288484962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-77298811997601930582009-08-30T20:11:12.377-07:002009-08-30T20:11:12.377-07:00After reading the first three chapters in Lord of ...After reading the first three chapters in Lord of the Flies, I havent become very fond of the book. I havent really liked the writing style and there is something about the book that just doesnt grab my atttention and draw me more into the book. But in the beginning, I noticed that Jack was not a very likeable character. He seemed rude to Piggy and he tried to take control too much. When he met Piggy, he promised to keep his name a secret. When they met up with the other kids, Jack turned on him and told them his name. He seems too controlling in the respect of when they went to go find out if they were on a island. When Piggy wanted to go with them, Jack refused in a rude manner. A question I had though, was why they were the only people who survived the plane crash? Did the adults survive too and we wont find out until later? I also have the same question as katea. What is a beastie? I think that the author should clarify that. If the author would clarify more of the book, i think that this book would be more understandable and easier to follow. It may even make the book more enjoyable to read.Rebekkah C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08489273274953921242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-52191773184079075252009-08-30T20:08:47.749-07:002009-08-30T20:08:47.749-07:00So far i think that LOF is a great book with an in...So far i think that LOF is a great book with an interesting plot that provides for many questions to be asked. I think that as soon as you get past the first few pages the book gets really interesting. I think that the authors writing style is great especially because of the amazing descriptions of the characters and the scenery.eat broncoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08580355865621552048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-27865703856537574172009-08-30T19:51:16.480-07:002009-08-30T19:51:16.480-07:00This book was very different from the material tha...This book was very different from the material that I've read before. This is mainly because I'm used to reading Non-fiction books about conflicts in the world. Lord of the Flies presented an entirely different storyline for me. My most nagging question from the reading is the simple question of how they became stranded in the first place. My thinking is that it was nearer to the end of World War II. This is because one of the boys mentioned an atomic bomb. It is easy to determine that they are English, and that the island they crashed on is in the Pacific. My only reasoning for their location is that they were being evacuated from England to Australia. Australia was relatively safe during the war, even with it's close proximity to the Japanese forces. The plane that the boys were on could have been engaged by a Japanese fighter and disabled so that it crashed. Any facts other than that I have not found.Dannyv2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/01418603931624398423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5314591914640484740.post-86121676172567852722009-08-30T19:47:37.549-07:002009-08-30T19:47:37.549-07:00So far, this has not been a very exciting book. Th...So far, this has not been a very exciting book. This has been a very slow read so far. One thing I have really found a lot in this book, is it is very hard to tell what is real and what the boys are imagining. I think the "beastie" is just something the boys are imagining, and it shows their fear, but maybe it is real. I just can't tell. The conch seems like it is very significant. Just having the conch automatically made Ralph the leader in everyone's minds. I would imagine that will stay significant throughout the story. I think that as the story goes on, the kids are going to become less and less concerned about being rescued and more of them will become violent and want to be hunters. I agree with the many people who have said Piggy is the most likeable character in the book. Ralph and Jack both come across as arrogant and mean. Hopefully this book will become more exciting as I read more because the beginning is very boring.loganb2013https://www.blogger.com/profile/02888998784246460210noreply@blogger.com